[Linux-bruxelles] Re: Linux-bruxelles digest, Vol 1 #784 - 9 msgs
anthony DEDE
anthonydede at hotmail.com
Lun 18 Nov 12:52:58 CET 2002
"utilisation ms office"
bonjour,
comment puis-je utiliser MS-office sur linux
Précision je n'ai pas de dual boot et ne compte pas en avoir(honnêtement je
ne vois pas pour quoi je devrais avoir deux os sur mon pc et surtout pas
l'autre)
je sais que c'est possible par wine mais à par le boire je ne vois pas trop
comment faire(faut il créer une partition dos? comment installer ms office)
merci d'avance à ceux qui voudront bien m'apporter leur assistance ou tout
début de solution
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>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:03:02 +0100
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> 1. Re: Non au brevetage des logiciels - No ePattents
> ! (Carlos Betancourt)
> 2. Re: copie audio disk at once (Luc Viatour)
> 3. Re: debian /dev/cdrom :-( (Serge Smeesters)
> 4. Re: modem et f.a.i. : configuration + connection : ? (Serge
>Smeesters)
> 5. Re: Non au brevetage des logiciels - No ePattents! (David GLAUDE
>Mailing)
> 6. Re: Non au brevetage des logiciels - No ePattents! (Carlos
>Betancourt)
> 7. Re: modem et f.a.i. : configuration + connection : ?
>(Jean-Christophe Beumier)
> 8. Offre temporaire (Frederic Fokan)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] Non au brevetage des logiciels - No
>ePattents
> !
>From: Carlos Betancourt <carlos.betancourt at chello.be>
>To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>Date: 14 Nov 2002 10:18:42 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>Has anyone already registered to the event?
>
>Carlos
>
>On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 23:21, Laurence Vandewalle wrote:
> > Scroll down for english - Please distribute widely
> > Non au brevetage des logiciels !
> > Richard Stallman, p=E8re du logiciel libre, sera le 26/11/2002 =E0=20
> > Bruxelles lors d'une conf=E9rence du Groupe des Verts/Ale avec JP=20
> > Berlan (France, INRA) et B. Kahin (USA, Univ. of Maryland), et des=20
> > d=E9put=E9s de diff=E9rents groupes politiques (PPE, PSE, GUE, ELDR,
>Vert=
>s,=20
> > Radicaux)afin d'alerter sur le projet de directive 2002/092 sur le=20
> > brevetage des logiciels (de son vrai nom : "directive sur le=20
> > brevetage des inventions mises en oeuvre par ordinateur").
> > Tout en se cachant derri=E8re une =E9criture confuse, la Commission=20
> > europ=E9enne ouvre la porte au brevetage des m=E9thodes commerciales,
>des=
>=20
> > logiciels, des math=E9matiques, des id=E9es ...alors qu'informaticiens
>et=
>=20
> > =E9conomistes s'accordent pour dire que le droit d'auteur suffit pour=20
> > prot=E9ger les logiciels. Le brevet favorise les gros acteurs de type=20
> > Microsoft et entrave l'innovation. La Commission propose en fait de=20
> > l=E9gitimer la pratique ill=E9gale de l'Office Europ=E9en des Brevets,
>au=
>=20
> > lieu de reprendre le contr=F4le sur cette organisation.
> > La conf=E9rence aura lieu au Parlement europ=E9en =E0 Bruxelles rue
>Wiert=
>z=20
> > (M=E9tro : Tr=F6ne)
> > Programme et inscriptions : Laurence Van de Walle
> > lvandewalle at europarl.eu.int
> > +3222841695
> > La proposition de directive est disponible sur le site=20
> > http://www.europa.eu.int (aller dans Eurlex, com(2002)092 final)
> >
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>-----
> > No ePattents !
> > Richard Stallman, father of the Free software, will participate in a=20
> > conference by the Greens/Efa in Brussels on 26 Nov. along with JP=20
> > Berlan, Brian Kahin, ... and MEPs of several political groups (PSE,=20
> > PPE, Greens/Efa, GUE, ELDR, Radicals) to draw the attention on the=20
> > dangerous consequences of the directive on software pattents=20
> > (com2002/092 on pattents on computer-implemented inventions). This=20
> > directive allows pattenting on business methods, softwares,=20
> > mathematics, thus ideas ... while most economists and computer=20
> > specialists agree that copyright is enough to protect sofwares and=20
> > that pattents, hinder innovation and favor players on the market like=20
> > Microsoft. The Commission should rather gain control on the European=20
> > Pattent Office.
> > Registration and informations : Laurence Van de Walle=20
> > lvandewalle at europarl.eu.int
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Laurence Van de Walle
> > Green/EFA Group in European Parliament
> > Advisor on Industry and Research policy
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > ----
> >=20
>
> > BEGIN:VCARD
> > VERSION:2.1
> > X-GWTYPE:USER
> > FN:Vandewalle, Laurence
> > TEL;WORK:41695
> > ORG:;Groupe Verts/ALE
> > EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:LVandewalle at europarl.eu.int
> > N:Vandewalle;Laurence
> > TITLE:EXT
> > X-GWUSERID:LVandewalle
> > END:VCARD
> >=20
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>
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>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] copie audio disk at once
>From: Luc Viatour <l.viatour at mm.be>
>To: Liste Bxlug <linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be>
>Date: 14 Nov 2002 10:23:46 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>Le jeu 14/11/2002 =E0 00:55, R=E9mi Letot a =E9crit :
>
> > ajoute --driver generic-mmc =E0 ta ligne de commande.
> >=20
>Cela marche, merci.
>--=20
>Luc Viatour =20
>Dupedi S.A., rue de Stalle 70-82 1180 Bruxelles
>Tel: 02.333 07 18 Fax: 02.332 05 98 Website: http://www.dupedi.be
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>From: "Serge Smeesters" <serge.smeesters at sesa.ucl.ac.be>
>To: <linux-bruxelles at perceval.bxlug.be>
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] debian /dev/cdrom :-(
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:21:05 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
> >> Depuis que je suis rentr=E9 chez moi, apr=E8s qu'on m'ai aid=E9
> >> =E0 install=E9 Debian =E0 partir du r=E9seau, je n'ai pas acc=E8s =E0
> >> mon lecteur cd-rom et donc =E0 ces pr=E9cieux m=E9diats...
> >> (J'imagine que jusque l=E0, nous n'en avions tout
> >> simplement pas eu besoin en fait... D'o=F9 l'effet de
> >> surprise ;)
> >>
> >> En pratique, je n'ai tout simplement pas de /dev/cdrom
> >> :-(
>
> > Pas bien :-)
>
>J'osais pas vraiment le dire :-d..
>
> > C'est bizarre que tu ne l'aies pas, car il est cr=E9=E9 par le
> > syst=E8me d'installation...
>
>Je suis plut=F4t d=E9=E7u pour =E7a mais pour l'instant, je suis
>encore "dans le brouillard" sous GNU/Linux alors je ne suis
>pas s=FBr de ne pas passer =E0 c=F4t=E9 d'une "connerie" ou m=EAme
>d'avoir fait une mauvaise manipulation qui aurais fait
>"dispara=EEtre le cdrom".
>
> >> Comment dois-je proc=E9der ?
> >> Y a-t-il un petit programme ou une petite commande ou un
> >> petit script qui d=E9tecte le cdrom et s'occupe de modifier
> >> les fichiers de configuration ?
>
> Tu peux simplement le cr=E9er en root avec :
>
> > ln -s /dev/tondevicecdrom /dev/cdrom
>
>Cr=E9er un lien, ouai, heu...
>Je pense avoir essay=E9 des choses similaires.
>Mon lecteur (graveur en fait mais pour commenc=E9, come simple
>lecteur, ce serait d=E9j=E0 super) se trouve sur ce que je
>connais comme =E9tant le "Primary slave" et si j'ai bien
>compris =E7a correspond =E0 hdb. Ce que j'ai fait, c'est
>modifier le fichier de configuration pour mount pour qu'il
>utilise hdb, ensuite, un "mount cdrom" me donnais un message
>d'erreur...
>
> > (note que =E7a ne restera entre les reboots que si tu
> > n'utilises pas devfs)
>
>Je ne sais pas ce qu'est "devfs" et/ou si je "l'utilise" ou
>pas...
>Je sais juste qu'il s'agit de Debian, install=E9 =E0 partir du
>r=E9seau...
>
> > Ou alors tu installes discover qui va d=E9tecter ton
> > mat=E9riel et tout configurer comme il faut:
>
>Vraiment !?
>Un programme qui "d=E9tecte mon mat=E9riel et configure comme il
>faut", =E7a suscite en moi quelques inqui=E9tudes...
>
><confiant>J'ai l'impression que c'est ce que j'attends
>:-)</confiant>
>
><m=E9fiant>Ce programme, il risque pas de faire "foirer" ce qui
>fonctionne d=E9j=E0 ?</m=E9fiant>
>
> > apt-get install discover
>
>ok, merci, je vais essayer =E7a ce soir.
>
>
>Serge Smeesters :
> http://www.sergesmeesters.be
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>From: "Serge Smeesters" <serge.smeesters at sesa.ucl.ac.be>
>To: <linux-bruxelles at perceval.bxlug.be>
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] modem et f.a.i. : configuration + connection
>: ?
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:07 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
> >>> Il faut d'abord =E9tablir la connexion avec ton IS
> >>> provider:
> >>>
> >>> pon <ton_provider>
>
> >> Ha, oui, comme =E7a, en shell donc... Ca ne me d=E9range pas,
> >> mais j'imagine qu'il doit y avoir moyen de faire =E7a sous
> >> KDE, "j'y arrivais" avec Mandrake... Enfin, c'est pas le
> >> plus important :-)
>
> > Il y a des outils gtk ou gnom bas=E9s sur pon/poff, mais
> > sous kde je sais pas.
> >
> > Il y a kppp, mais je ne pense pas qu'il utilise
> > l'infrastructure pppconfig/pon/poff.
>
>Non, j'ai pas l'impression puisque je devait red=E9finir tout les
>param=E8tres etc.
>Et pour finir, =E7a marchait quand m=EAme pas... Mais il
>m'arrive fr=E9quemment que l'identification =E9choue... J'ai pas
>insist=E9 mais si =E7a se trouve, =E7a aurait finit par marcher.
>Enfin, en attendant, j'ai donc essay=E9 pon/poff, et =E7a marche
>!
>J'ai m=EAme d=E9j=E0 fait 2 apt-get install pour powermanga et
>frozen-bubble :-)
>
>Encore merci :-)
>
>
>Serge Smeesters :
> http://www.sergesmeesters.be
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 5
>From: "David GLAUDE Mailing" <dglaudemailing at gmx.net>
>To: <linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be>
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] Non au brevetage des logiciels - No
>ePattents!
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:44:13 +0100
>Organization: Secret
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>[About the 26 conference with RMS @ EP (RMS also @ Nova Theater on the 27)]
>
>I will be there but I don't need to register. ;-)
>This is because I work inside the European Parlement.
>Registration is needed mostly to pass the security.
>
>I was also there at the public hearing @EP on that topic
>where eurolinux guy and other where there to present their argument.
>I helped distribute documentation and greating peaple from other country
>(DK & ES) comming to try to convince MEP (Member of the EP).
>They were surprise that there were no more Belgian (me excepted) present
>at this event. They traveled a long distance (+ hotel) where we are closer.
>
>I guess the goal is to maximise the number of MEP and Assistant since
>they need to be convinced and vote the issue. But external support might be
>good too.
>We can take the opportunity to informaly meet and organise (@ the bar or
>else).
>
>A personal note to Laurence Van de Walle, if I can be of any help for this
>event
>(placing poster at ULB/VUB, contacting other Linux User Group, ...) don't
>hesitate to contact me (this email or the EP one).
>
>David GLAUDE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carlos Betancourt" <carlos.betancourt at chello.be>
>To: <linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be>
>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] Non au brevetage des logiciels - No
>ePattents!
>
>
>Has anyone already registered to the event?
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] Non au brevetage des logiciels - No
>ePattents!
>From: Carlos Betancourt <carlos.betancourt at chello.be>
>To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>Date: 14 Nov 2002 14:17:07 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 13:44, David GLAUDE Mailing wrote:
> > [About the 26 conference with RMS @ EP (RMS also @ Nova Theater on the
>27)]
> >
>
>BTW, do you know how is inviting RMS to come?
>I mean, is he coming on his own or is someone sponsoring him? Just
>curious.
>
>[...]
>
> > They were surprise that there were no more Belgian (me excepted)
>present
> > at this event. They traveled a long distance (+ hotel) where we are
>closer.
> > We can take the opportunity to informaly meet and organise (@ the bar or
> > else).
>
>Well, I'm not Belgian ;)
>
>Good idea. Is there anything to organise? Maybe distributing flyers?
>CDs? Or is it just a hearing? Any ideas are welcome.
>
>Maybe we can meet next week during lunchtime to talk about it. Anyone
>else interested?
>
>See you then.
>
>Carlos
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>From: Jean-Christophe Beumier <jchr.beumier at tiscali.be>
>To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>Subject: Re: [Linux-bruxelles] modem et f.a.i. : configuration + connection
>: ?
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:48:19 +0100
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>On Thursday 14 November 2002 00:49, you wrote:
>
>Dis, Serge, referme correctement ta balise [couic], parce que ça fait des
>saletés sur mon Kmail.
>
>Jean-Christophe
>
>
> > "Serge Smeesters" <serge.smeesters at sesa.ucl.ac.be> writes:
> >
> > <couic>
> >
> > >> Il faut d'abord établir la connexion avec ton IS provider:
> > >>
> > >> pon <ton_provider>
> > >
> > > Ha, oui, comme ça, en shell donc... Ca ne me dérange pas,
> > > mais j'imagine qu'il doit y avoir moyen de faire ça sous
> > > KDE, "j'y arrivais" avec Mandrake... Enfin, c'est pas le
> > > plus important :-)
> >
> > Il y a des outils gtk ou gnom basés sur pon/poff, mais sous kde je
> > sais pas.
> >
> > Il y a kppp, mais je ne pense pas qu'il utilise l'infrastructure
> > pppconfig/pon/poff.
> >
> > > <ton_provider>, c'est le nom que je lui ai donné avec
> > > pppconfig j'imagine ?..
> >
> > Oui
> >
> > <couic>
> >
> > >> poff <ton_provider>
> > >
> > > Ha oui(?), je dois repréciser de quel provider il s'agit
> > > donc !?
> >
> > Pas si tu n'as qu'une connection ppp active.
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 8
>From: Frederic Fokan <frederic at fokan.be>
>To: Mailing Liste du =?ISO-8859-1?Q?r=E9seau?= "citoyen...."
> <niouz at reseaucitoyen.be>, Mailling liste du BxLug
> <linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be>
>Date: 14 Nov 2002 15:02:05 +0100
>Subject: [Linux-bruxelles] Offre temporaire
>Reply-To: linux-bruxelles at lists.bxlug.be
>
>
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>Bonjour =E0 tous,
>
>ce petit mail pour vous dire que jusqu'au 20/11/2002 un de mes
>fournisseurs destocke des mini pc, c'est pas evolutif, mais ca permet de
>faire des petites stations pour pas cher, il y a une photo jointe.
>
>Specs (all embeded on motherboard):
>cpu 800 MHz (equiv PIII)
>VGA PRO Savage + TV-OUT
>USB 2.0
>Sound=20
>LAN
>
>Price : 229 euro/HTVA
>
>il faut ajouter :
>Memoire (128 MB =3D 21 euros/HTVA, 256 MB =3D 34 euro/HTVA)
>un HD (30 Gb, 5400 rpm =3D 75 euro/HTVA ou 40 Gb 7200 rpm =3D 90
>euros/HTVA=
>)
>=E9ventuellement un lecteur cd ou dvd (cd 52x =3D 32 euro/HTVA, dvd =3D 57
>euro/HTVA)
>
>@+ Fred
>
>
>--=20
>
>GPG public key on public key servers
>http://www.keyserver.net/
>http://www.fokan.be/mail.html
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> ('> Frederic Fokan <')
> /~\ frederic at fokan.be /~\
> | F ) +32 485 116 642 ( F |
> \_|_ _|_/
>
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